diff --git a/app/layout/genericlayout.cpp b/app/layout/genericlayout.cpp
index 75c15a21b..e2af5ba3a 100644
--- a/app/layout/genericlayout.cpp
+++ b/app/layout/genericlayout.cpp
@@ -758,7 +758,7 @@ void GenericLayout::containmentDestroyed(QObject *cont)
 
         if (view) {
             view->disconnectSensitiveSignals();
-            view->positioner()->hideOnExit();
+            view->positioner()->hideOnExit(containment->location());
             view->deleteLater();
 
             emit viewEdgeChanged();
diff --git a/app/view/positioner.cpp b/app/view/positioner.cpp
index 8306b9430..3865586d2 100644
--- a/app/view/positioner.cpp
+++ b/app/view/positioner.cpp
@@ -294,11 +294,15 @@ QString Positioner::currentScreenName() const
     return m_screenNameToFollow;
 }
 
-void Positioner::hideOnExit()
+void Positioner::hideOnExit(Plasma::Types::Location location)
 {
     auto slideLocation = WindowSystem::AbstractWindowInterface::Slide::None;
 
-    switch (m_view->containment()->location()) {
+    if (location == Plasma::Types::Floating && m_view->containment()) {
+        location = m_view->containment()->location();
+    }
+
+    switch (location) {
     case Plasma::Types::TopEdge:
         slideLocation = WindowSystem::AbstractWindowInterface::Slide::Top;
         break;
@@ -324,6 +328,12 @@ void Positioner::hideOnExit()
     m_view->setVisible(false);
 }
 
+void Positioner::showInStartup()
+{
+    hideOnExit();
+    m_view->setVisible(true);
+}
+
 void Positioner::onCurrentLayoutIsSwitching(const QString &layoutName)
 {
     if (!m_view || !m_view->layout() || m_view->layout()->name() != layoutName || !m_view->isVisible()) {
diff --git a/app/view/positioner.h b/app/view/positioner.h
index 1b99bb951..182ba862c 100644
--- a/app/view/positioner.h
+++ b/app/view/positioner.h
@@ -108,7 +108,8 @@ public slots:
     //! that might prevent them. It must be called with care.
     void immediateSyncGeometry();
 
-    void hideOnExit();
+    void showInStartup();
+    void hideOnExit(Plasma::Types::Location location = Plasma::Types::Floating);
 
     void initDelayedSignals();
     void updateWaylandId();
diff --git a/app/view/view.cpp b/app/view/view.cpp
index 84aec779e..c801ee69d 100644
--- a/app/view/view.cpp
+++ b/app/view/view.cpp
@@ -83,7 +83,9 @@ View::View(Plasma::Corona *corona, QScreen *targetScreen, bool byPassWM)
       m_interface(new ViewPart::ContainmentInterface(this)),
       m_parabolic(new ViewPart::Parabolic(this)),
       m_sink(new ViewPart::EventsSink(this))
-{      
+{
+    setVisible(false);
+
     //! needs to be created after Effects because it catches some of its signals
     //! and avoid a crash from View::winId() at the same time
     m_positioner = new ViewPart::Positioner(this);
@@ -177,6 +179,10 @@ View::View(Plasma::Corona *corona, QScreen *targetScreen, bool byPassWM)
         if (m_positioner) {
             //! immediateSyncGeometry helps avoiding binding loops from containment qml side
             m_positioner->immediateSyncGeometry();
+            if (m_inStartup) {
+                m_inStartup = false;
+                m_positioner->showInStartup();
+            }
         }
 
         connect(this->containment(), SIGNAL(statusChanged(Plasma::Types::ItemStatus)), SLOT(statusChanged(Plasma::Types::ItemStatus)));
diff --git a/app/view/view.h b/app/view/view.h
index e32d1e473..b04ceee7a 100644
--- a/app/view/view.h
+++ b/app/view/view.h
@@ -401,6 +401,7 @@ private:
     bool m_containsDrag{false};
     bool m_containsMouse{false};
     bool m_inDelete{false};
+    bool m_inStartup{true};
     bool m_isPreferredForShortcuts{false};
     bool m_onPrimary{true};
     bool m_screenEdgeMarginEnabled{false};